May222011

romanticthoughts asked: I have an issue with the title of this tumblr;
"Belief and knowledge"
I assume by this you mean belief = religion, Knowledge = atheism?

No, i do not simply believe in god, i do not simply think he exists, i know in the core of my being, in my mind hes here, i know god sent us Jesus to die for our sins so that we can be reborn in a new more wonderful life. I cannot explain this feeling to you, when you feel it you will know you will not simply believe.

My belief in god is more than "being a good person" and "going to church", i read the bible, i pray, i listen to minsters and other ministers from other countries and try to live my life in a way that pleases god, and its not about being a good person, parts of the bible are offensive to some people and i live my life this way not because its always easy, but because i know that its the right way to live.

Do i want to have pre-martial sex? im human, i have hormones of course i do, but i know that the best sex and the only sex i will ever have is with my husband.
Do i wish i didnt have to believe my friends are leaving an unholy life? of course i do, it would be comforting and easier.
Do i not want to talk to defensive and offensive people about my religion? of course, but evangelizing is a key part in my belief.

good project, i would just question the title of this Tumblr, but i'm sure atheists would too, call it "idiocy and intelligence", and i would go as far as calling it "heaven and hell" because i guess thats the choice your making. xx

I don’t mean that by the title of this Tumblr at all, I’m simply interested in how we define belief and knowledge for example I believe I am awake and typing this to you but for all I KNOW this could be an elaborate dream.

I’m fascinated by the way people differnciate between what they believe and what they know, many poeple believe in the theory of evolution because they have read about it and been told about it and it makes sense to them. Equally however many people believe in certain religious theories for exactly the same reasons. How do we differentiate between what we believe and what we know? 
Thank you for your contribution. #50

April292011

Update

Hello followers, 

 I have just updated the list of things on the ‘What to contribute’ page, so if you are struggling to find something to contribute then perhaps you would like to answer some of these questions to get you started. 

What is your religion, how would you describe it to me?
If you are not religious then do you follow another belief system or ideology, how would you describe it?
Have you always had the same views about theism/atheism etc or have your views changed over time?
Can you tell me about the experiences, people, literature, ideas etc that helped you form your views?
What problems do you consider there to be with religion/theism?
What problems do you see there to be with irreligion/atheism?
Can you tell me about your thoughts on a Deity?
What questions would you like to ask an Atheist?
What questions would you like to ask a Theist?
What do you think about the way religious texts are changed and adapted over time; do you think this has an effect on what can be considered true to your religion?
What are your thoughts on the Devil (or another personification of evil)?
Have you ever had a religious experience, can you tell me about it?
How do you feel about evolution and other scientific theories, do these play a part in developing your views?
Have you read the bible or any other religious texts, what did you think about them, how did they help shape your views?
If someone presented evidence to you that contradicted your beliefs – for example that the power of prayer did or did not work then would you adapt your beliefs based on these new findings?
What is your opinion of faith healing and other religious miracles?
Do you believe in heaven and hell, what do you think they are like? Where are they?
Where does your religion stand on things such as body modification, sex, abortion, homosexuality and the death penalty? Do your views ever differ from that of your religion?
What distinctions do you make between faith, belief and knowledge?
How do you decide if something is fact?
Do you think identifying with a religion is important in defining who we are?
Do you think religious or non-religious labels are important in defining who we are?
To be nonreligious do you have to be anti-religion?
Does your religion have a religious book or religious texts? What are they? What are the main points set out in your book do you follow the rules or guidelines these texts provide – can you tell me about them?
What do you think happens when we die?
How do you feel about the possible contradictions contained within some religious texts?
If you follow an ideology or belief system that is not religious and does not have religious texts or set guidelines then from where and how did you develop your ‘moral code’, your beliefs about what is fundamentally right and wrong?
What would you like to see discussed on this site?
Can you recommend any books, essays, studies, websites etc that might be interesting?

A big thank you to everyone who has contributed so far. I would love to hear your feedback about the site and to accept any further contributions if you have more to add. Have a brilliant day! 

- Maggie x

12AM

valliegurl asked: <i>How do you define religion?</i><br>
Religion is a relationship. You invest your energy, time, and are emotionally involved.<br><br>

<i>Are religious or non religious labels important in defining who we are?</i><br>
It's not really the label that defines who we are. It's what we do and what our motives are.<br><br>

<i>Who/what is god to you?</i><br>
I'm not really interested in what God is to me, it's what He is period. He is almighty, He is omniscient, He is omnipotent. He is everything. There are no other gods besides Him.<br><br>

<i>How do you define faith?</i><br>
It's a confidence, a trust in the unseen. (:<br><br>

<i>How do you define atheism?</i><br>
Atheists don't want to believe that there is a Deity who's in charge of everything. It's kind of funny to me how people say that they're atheists because they're afraid of that if He does than when they die they're going to see Christ at the judgement seat and go to hell for their sins. It's built in everyone that they know that God exists, they just choose not to see it. It takes a lot of faith to think God isn't there.<br>
<b>Psalm 14:1<br>
The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God"<br>
They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds;<br>
There is no one who does good.</b><br><br>

<i>Are you religious and if so then why?</i><br>
Because God loved me, sent His only son to die on the cross for <i>all</i> of my sins, including the world's. How can anyone compare to that? He's the reason I'm alive! The least I can do is to give Him all the glory and follow His will.<br><br>

<i>If someone presented evidence contrary to your beliefs then would you be persuaded to change your mind?</i><br>
Nope, it'd be a lie. The Bible is the absolute truth.<br>
<b>Romans 1:18-25<br>
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,<br>
because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.<br>
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.<br>
For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.<br>
Professing to be wise, they became fools,<br>
and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.<br>
Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.<br>
For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. </b><br><br>

<i>Can you share any links that might be useful or interesting?</i><br>
Absolutely! Here are a few:<br>
<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/">Bible Gateway</a><br>
<a href="http://www.christiananswers.net/evangelism/beliefs/atheism.html">About Atheists and Agnostics</a><br>
<a href="http://sermon.net/lifepointbaptist">Great sermons</a><br>

Contribution #49

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April282011

topraisetoblesstopreach-deactiv asked: A little long, but I'd like to share my story/conversion from staunch atheism to Catholic:

As a young child I knew absolutely nothing about Jesus, about God, or about religion in general. I grew up in an atheistic/agnostic household where the name of God was never invoked, lest it were to precede a curse word. My very short exposure to anything having to do with God was when I would stay the night at my grandma’s apartment. She had a cabinet full of children’s books out of which I would often pick and read different books. My favorite story was “Daniel and the Lion’s Den” and my second favorite was about the baby Moses, followed by the Little Miss Piggy series.

As I grew older I became a little bit more aware of the presence and importance of religion to other people. I also imbibed much of my parents’ views and feelings toward religion. I was taught, albeit not directly or even intentionally, that religion was a crutch that weak people used to get through life. That church was a place that people went to be social with one another and to boost their confidence. It was something we clearly didn’t need, because we were strong, we were family. And nothing is stronger than a family sealed by the bonds of love. We would survive the hard times depending on nothing but each other. That’s what it meant to be a “My Last Name.”

I have very few memories of ever thinking about God’s existence as a child. They are all from back in Portland, so I must’ve been under 7. One of my earliest memories is asking God, if He existed, to clean my room for me overnight. Didn’t happen. I also remember lying in bed, closing my eyes, and trying to think what eternity would be like, what life after death would be like. I remember picturing darkness. A never-ending black hole. It gave me shivers. And I think that was the night, if there ever was a specific “time,” that I decided for myself that I didn’t believe in God.

By the time I reached the upper years of middle school, I was an adamant atheist. I had read the book (it’s still one of my favorites) The Sea Wolf by Jack London. There’s a character in the book, the antagonist, who is the perfect atheist. Intelligent, self-educated, and brutal. But he gave words to how I viewed the world in my head. I only now realize exactly Nietszchean he is. But, essentially, his world view consisted that the only meaning to life is to live. To survive. To be powerful, because only the powerful survive. The strong eat the weak and the weak die. There was no ultimate meaning to life. There was no value to life, except to your own. The weak grasp and hold onto anything they can to give their meager, weak lives some sort of meaning. The strong have no use for such things.

Bleak views for a 13-year old, but they were mine. I adopted them, developed them, and believed in them full-heartedly. Not that I enjoyed the fact they were true. Not at all. In fact, I deplored the fact that this was the state of reality. But, truth is truth and I wasn’t going to adopt some religious views just to satisfy my unsatisfaction with the way things were.

Despite these views, I was, for the most part, a good kid. I experimented with some not-so-good behaviors at one point or another. We, my friends and I, would steal wallets and other such smaller goods from stores. We messed around with smoking a little bit. I used to steal pot from my older brother and sell it to my friend’s brother, who was a drug dealer. But most of that didn’t last very long. I never felt guilty, per se, but I never really enjoyed doing that kind of stuff either.

Luckily my friend group shifted a bit when I entered high school. I was a part of the high school band (played the trumpet) and eventually my social life revolved around it. Most of the kids in the band were all those goodie-goodie types. Strangely enough, almost all were Christian, too. Of course, I didn’t believe what they did. But since they didn’t engage in “sinful” behavior, neither did I.

My world-view at this time did not change at the influence of my friends. On the contrary, I grew even more convicted that, essentially, “might was right.” My observances of my Christian friends did not lend to a positive light. What I mean by this is that their faith, it seemed to me at least, was only surface level. They didn’t know what they believed. To me, they were brainwashed. They hardly knew why they believed what they believed. They simply followed what they had been taught all their life. They hadn’t actually thought deeply at all about their faith.

So, I challenged them. I argued with them. I attempted to ruin what little faith that they had. And frankly, I won most of the arguments. Yet, for some reason, these friends of mine did not yield or give up on their faith. Each day they would come back and try again. Their perseverance astonished me. Their peace, especially, astonished me. Sure, they would get frustrated at times. But each day they would be back. United with one another (which was quite a feat itself, considering the three friends of whom I speak consisted of two Mormons and a Catholic).

About a year went by of this back and forth arguing. I did not yield. I couldn’t. But as time went by, I did begin to envy my friends. Not because I thought they were right, that they possessed the truth. On the contrary, I envied their ignorance. I envied their peace of mind that came with being so brainwashed that they could not see the truth of the state of the world. Frankly, my atheistic world-view depressed me. I mean really made me depressed. I think my freshman and sophomore year of high school were two of the most depressing of my life. I was not happy. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that I ever contemplated suicide, but I certainly wasn’t in a good state to say the least.

Shortly thereafter a desire grew in me to believe in God. A sidewise desire wishing that I too had been born into a Christian household so that I could be free from the terrible truth I knew. This desire was killing me. I wished so badly for it to be true that God existed. But my intellect could not consent. There was nothing in any arguments that I read that could convince me. God was dead and I was left to face that bitter truth alone.

Words fail to convey what happened next. As many times as I’ve tried to explain it out loud (which is few) or tried writing it down (which is many) I can never quite put the right words to the experience.

In a night of despair at my pitiful state, I found myself doing something that I never would have imagined myself doing… Overwhelmed by the bleakness of my world-views, I decided that I would give God one chance and once chance only. I knelt down by the side of my bed, thinking to myself the entire time that I had gone absolutely crazy, that I was speaking to no one but my imagination.

But I desired to believe. I think it was the first time in my life that I was actually open to the possibility that God could exist. It was the first time that I laid aside my pride and was ready to believe, should there be good enough reason to do so.

So I knelt down and I prayed for the first time in my life. I told God that I was ready. I asked Him to reveal Himself to me; I told Him I wanted so badly to believe, but that I couldn’t. I poured out my heart before Him and I asked in all sincerity if He existed.

What happened next is beyond words. Truly ineffable. My body began to shake ever so slightly and I was filled with a joy that I had never before known. I thought my heart would burst out of my chest! In the course of a single moment I knew, without any doubt, that God existed and more, the He loved me! That God was love! Love beyond any love I had ever known!

A few moments later I was sitting on the floor next to my bed, out of breath and shaking uncontrollably. My palms were sweating. All that I could do was cry. So I cried. Out of joy, out of shock, out of sorrow… I don’t know. Probably a mixture of all three.

This experience left me convinced, beyond any measure of doubt, of God’s existence. Despite my skeptical nature (which, trust me, I’m a very skeptical person), I could in no way doubt what happened that night. But it also left me a little bit lost. My whole world was turned around. Everything I had believed was debunked in one night. Where was I supposed to go from there? God seemed to have overlooked that part.

Eventually I was led to the Catholic Church and here shortly, I will dedicate my life to God as a religious sister (aka nun). But that's a story for a different day.

Contribution #48

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10PM

themoiramerrier asked: Religion is part of my everyday life, part of my existence. I have been a Roman Catholic all my life. I am from the Philippines which is the third largest Catholic Nation in the world. My family is Catholic. I am enrolled to a Catholic school since grade school; hence I take part in knowing my religion further.
I may say that I am religious. As a Catholic, I fulfil my obligations. These include attending mass on Sundays, having confession, taking part of the Holy Communion, and many other things. Who is God to me? He is not just my God but he is most importantly, my friend. I talk to him and even though sometimes I’d be deaf, I know he’s there to answer me, to help me.
I have been surrounded by Roman Catholics almost all my life. But I still do know people who are not in the same religion as me and yet they are my friends. I don’t consider this a barrier. What’s most important is we respect each other’s belief. And with that, there’s peace. :)

 This is really short. But this speaks to what's in my mind right now. Hopefully I can contribute my views further. Thanks!!

Contribution #47

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2AM

kickdrum asked: I'm sorry if this so terribly long.
I wasn't raised in any church setting, or a religious household. My mom was raised in the Mormon faith, but left when she married my dad, who isn't religious in the least. We don't talk about church, God, or faith in my house.
When I was 6, I made friends with a girl in my kindergarten class & would spend the night at her house a lot. I always went to church with her on Sunday mornings if I had spent the night before over. I still attend that church, which is a small UPC Pentecostal church. I was baptized there, and it has always been my home away from home. When I was younger, if I ever got in trouble my dad would 'ground' me from church. He really wasn't(& still isn't) a fan of the Pentecostal denomination.
I wear makeup, have piercings, am working my way to tattoos, regularly cut & color my hair, and I wear pants 90% of the time. By no means am I the cookie cutter image of a UPC Pentecostal girl, but I love the passion, spirit, & connection I feel when I'm there. & on top of all that, the people I've met through that church have changed my life, picked me up through all of my mishaps, & loved me even though I'm "different".(I stick out like a sore thumb!)
I live 2 hours from home now, for college, & I attend a Catholic church here. My boyfriend of several years is Catholic, & because we're on the road to marriage & we'll have to raise our children by his faith, I go so I can learn as much as possible about everything. I do not plan to convert. He knows that, the priest knows that, & everyone is okay with it. I don't think any faith is superior to another. I believe in the same God the Catholic church or any protestant denomination believes in. Those in the Islamic faith believe in the same God of Abraham. I don't even mind if someone doesn't believe anything. It's not my place to judge, & who am I to say my way is the absolute & only right way? Life is such a mystery, & I'm just trying to find out how the puzzle pieces fit.
Live in love.
-Kylee

Contribution #46

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1AM

intoxicatedsoul asked: I was raised around Hinduism. My parents are both Hindu. I’m personally unsure of what religion I truly do follow. I don’t consider myself too religious if anything I am spiritual. It’s not that I don’t believe in God, it’s rather the idea of God. I believe that there is more of a force behind everything that does happen, but whether or not there is a God is still up in the air.

Contribution #45

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1AM

missydurden asked: first I have to apologize it took me so long to write to you, I had some really busy days...

so, my atheism is the result of my introduction to the institution of the catholic church when I was a child. In elementary school we had a priest who taught us all the stuff about the bible and god and so on, and he was an awful guy. He told all of us whos parents were divorced that our families will end up in hell and that we may only find some help when we come to church every Sunday. But what was even worse was his way of touching us - when we had to draw a picture or something like that we always had to show it to him afterwards, so we had to go to him and stand next to him and while he talked about the picture he touched and caressed us down our legs or backs and so on...I absolutely hated him and as he was the first and most impressive representative of the catholic church and god, my conclusion was that all of this was evil, disgusting and did not deserve my respect or attention...

I don't have any problems with people who want or need to believe in some higher power. But I have a deeply rooted hatred towards and aversion against the catholic church which I will never ever in one form or another respect or approve of. So I have to admit, I also have a problem with people who are in some way working or getting involved with the catholic church (which includes my mom and my so called mother in law...).

For me, I'm not a very spiritual person. When I'm facing difficulties or obstacles, I like to talk to my grandfather and my strep-granny, who are both dead, because I like the thought of the two of them watching over our family and me, and this is one way I stay positive even if the times are rough...I think this is the only way one may say I'm "spiritual" or "believing", but I guess this is how I still remember all the stories about guardian angels that my granny always told me when I was a child. I never thought of god or jesus, for me it always was about the guardian angels who will look after me all my life :)

Religion was always connected with something negative in my life, and I think that religion in general does not improve the life of people but oppress them.Not because of faith itself, but because of the earthly representatives who claim to execute "god's will" and who are willing to lie, betray, kill, molest and harm millions of people only to show the world that their faith is the right, the only one (and I mean all of the religious groups!!!)

So I hope this contribution is "helpful" - or at least not too offensive, because as my dad always says "It's you having a problem with the church, it's not god having a problem with you." And although I think of myself as an atheist, I like it when he says that, because sometimes it would be nice to believe in something bigger...

Thank you & I want to wish you just the best :)

Contribution #44

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1AM

Anonymous asked: I have been raised Catholic - I have been to mass nearly every week of my life, attended a catholic school. etc. However, i don't know if technically that is the best denomination for me. I don't know if any particular denomination, or set religion is 100% accurate for me. I would like to believe in a God; I think the bible (and probably the Quran as well) teaches you good morals that you should generally live by. But I do not take it literally, and I do not believe in everything the Church says.

I hate it when people generalise all christians as homophobic.

Contribution #43

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12AM

desertmanian asked: Hey I haven't gotten to follow this as much as I'd like since I've been working but I just wanted to give a kudos to whoever posted about Epistemology. That's largely the direction I wanted to take my discussion before the conversation began to get heated. Theories of knowledge largely affect what people consider to be valid in these sorts of discussions. In my opinion, any epistemology tends to accept certain presuppositions and axioms apart from evidence. For example: If an individual forwards the notion "We can only accept as True that which can be verified empirically".... the very statement itself that I just placed in quotation marks can't be verified empirically... or to be more specific "believing that all Truth can be verified empirically" is an assumption. That statement can't fulfill it's own requirements to be considered as true. So if someone subscribes to that view they need to understand they fundamentally start with a statement they accept on faith apart from evidence. They begin with a faith-based assumption. I'm not suggesting that all scientific types take that approach but I am using that illustration to illustrate my point about Epistemologies and how faith-based reasoning relates to knowledge.

Contribution #42

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